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Wednesday, October 8th, 2025 Today, Jim Comey will be arraigned in the Eastern District of Virginia; members of Congress will hold a press conference with Epstein survivors about the discharge petition to release the Epstein Files; furloughed workers are being told they may not receive backpay; the Supreme Court shoots down a Republican challenge to Washington State’s Climate Commitment Act; Pritzker and Newsom threaten to withdraw from the National Governor’s Association; CIA Deputy Director Michael Ellis replaces the agency’s general counsel with himself; Pam Bondi refuses to answer key questions in a Senate Judiciary hearing; Texas AG Ken Paxton continues his genocidal rhetoric against trans people; ICE bought vehicles with fake cell sites to spy on protestors; Roy Cooper shattered fundraising records in the first quarter for his Senate run; blue states should come together to declare an emergency; Jimmy Kimmel is more popular than Donald Trump; and Allison and Dana deliver your Good News.

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Wednesday, October 8th, 2025

Today, Jim Comey will be arraigned in the Eastern District of Virginia; members of Congress will hold a press conference with Epstein survivors about the discharge petition to release the Epstein Files; furloughed workers are being told they may not receive backpay; the Supreme Court shoots down a Republican challenge to Washington State’s Climate Commitment Act; Pritzker and Newsom threaten to withdraw from the National Governor’s Association; CIA Deputy Director Michael Ellis replaces the agency’s general counsel with himself; Pam Bondi refuses to answer key questions in a Senate Judiciary hearing; Texas AG Ken Paxton continues his genocidal rhetoric against trans people; ICE bought vehicles with fake cell sites to spy on protestors; Roy Cooper shattered fundraising records in the first quarter for his Senate run; blue states should come together to declare an emergency; Jimmy Kimmel is more popular than Donald Trump; and Allison and Dana deliver your Good News.

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Um, MSW Media Media. Hello and welcome to the Daily beans for Wednesday, October 8, 2025. Today, Jim Comey will be arraigned in the Eastern District of Virginia. Members of Congress will hold a press conference with Epstein survivors about the discharge petition to release the Epstein files. Furloughed workers are being told they may not receive back pay. The Supreme Court has shot down a Republican challenge to Washington state's Climate Commitment Act. Governor Pritzker and Governor Newsom are threatening to withdraw from the National Governor's Association. CIA Deputy Director Michael Ellis replaces the agency's general counsel with himself. Pam Bondi refuses to answer key questions in a Senate judiciary hearing. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton continues his genocidal rhetoric against trans people. ICE bought vehicles with fake cell sites to spy on protesters. Roy Cooper shattered fundraising records in the first quarter for his Senate run. Blue states should come together to declare an emergency. And Jimmy Kimmel is more popular than Donald Trump. Allison. I'm Allison Gill.

 

And I'm Dana Goldberg.

 

Hey, Dana, how's it going? Happy Wednesday.

 

Happy Wednesday to you, my friend. Uh, we are getting through it. Hump day. Here it is.

 

Yeah. Um, taint of the week. Taint of the week. Um, it's a good show today, I have to say, because I'm really excited. Our friend Dina, Nina Martinez Rutherford, Woohoo. Is going to be joining me later. She is running for Wisconsin State assembly in District 76. She's currently an alder, uh, in Madison. And, um, she's running because the person in that seat is actually running for governor and her name is Francesca Hong. So they're all very wonderful people. And we're going to talk to Dina later. And by the way, Dana, she told me to say hello to you.

 

I adore her. She's fantastic. You have to know that Dina was a standup. Right. We performed together. Um, she's so funny and she's so good for her state and I love that they literally, I think in the last election she tried not to run and they made her an. Elected her and she was like, okay, I guess we're doing this.

 

Yeah, they, they voted for. Anyway, she, she conceded. She withdrew and, like, endorsed her opponent and, uh, her other, you know, Democratic opponent and. But her name was still on the ballot and the people came together and elected her again. Anyway.

 

Yeah, it was. She's pretty spectacular. So enjoy that interview for sure, everybody.

 

Yeah, she's fantastic. Somebody who's not fantastic. Pam Bondi.

 

What an idiot. She's such an idiot. One of my favorite. Oh, you're about To. This is so good, everyone. It's so good. She took questions during the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing. And Schiff, Adam Schiff, uh, he really summoned up this performance perfectly. So.

 

Yeah. Ah. And, you know, I'm gonna pick this clip, like, it's the one that I love, that we both saw it have come together today and be like, yeah, let's play that cl. Uh, so let's listen to it for a second. Excuse me.

 

Let me do this. Because I think it's valuable that the American people get a sense of what you've refused to answer today. So these are just some of the questions you refuse to answer or have answered with personal attacks on members of this committee. You were asked whether you consulted with career ethics lawyers as you promised you would do during your nomination hearing when you approve the president receiving a $400 million gift from the Qataris. You refuse to answer that question. You are asked who or what role you may have played or who played the role in asking that Trump's name be flagged in any of the Epstein documents gathered by the FBI. You refused to answer that question. You were asked whether Homan kept the $50,000 bribe money. You refuse to answer that question. You were asked whether Homan paid taxes on the $50,000 bribe money. You refused to answer that question. You were asked, did career prosecutors find insufficient evidence to charge James Comey? You refused to answer that question. You were asked, how are military strikes on these boats in the Caribbean legal? And you refused to even answer that question. You were asked. Excuse me. Excuse me. Um, you were asked, did you discuss indicting James Comey with the president? You refused to answer that question. You were asked, did you approve the firing of antitrust lawyers who disagreed with the Hewlett Packard merger? You refused to answer that question. You were asked whether you support a restoration fund for violent insurrections. Insurrections to attack the Capitol on January 6th. Refused to answer that question. You were asked whether you were firing career professionals, career prosecutors, just because they worked on January 6th. Question. January 6th investigations. You refused to answer that question. You were asked by my California colleague whether you believe government officials like immigration officials have to abide by court orders. You wouldn't even answer that question. This is supposed to be an oversight hearing.

 

Oversight.

 

Excuse me. You can attack me after my time is over.

 

Your.

 

I know you've got plenty of canned attacks. We've heard them all day today.

 

Canned attacks on you.

 

This is supposed to be.

 

No one needs a canned attack on you regular. Order.

 

Madam Chair, I'm trying to Speak. This is supposed to be an oversight hearing of the Justice Department, and it comes in the wake of an indictment called for by the president of one of his enemies. This is supposed to be an oversight hearing, and it comes in the wake of revelations that a top administration official took $50,000 in a bag and this department made that investigation go away.

 

It was so the biggest thing, her looking at Adam Schiff and going, do you have a law degree? And I'm like, yeah, it's from Harvard, you fucking moron. Yeah, he's got a law degree from Harvard. I think hers is from Stilton Cheese University. And I know that's not what it's called. I'm sure some people graduated from that. But, like, for her to be up against Adam Schiff and be like, what do you. Do you even have a law degree? I'm like, yeah, okay.

 

It does talk about law degrees for a second, Josh. Holly was like, jack Smith tapped my phone. And Kyle Cheney from M. Politico on Twitter was like, your phone was not tapped. You're full of it. And he's like, yes, it was. It was tapped. He's like, no, Jack Smith got subpoenas for your phone records.

 

Oh, my God, they're dumb.

 

Um, different. Tapping your phone would be listening to your conversations.

 

Um, I. I just want to echo what AOC said. Like, we didn't know this is what fascism in America would look like, but both of us agree it wouldn't look this dumb.

 

Yeah.

 

For some of these people. Or. My God.

 

Okay, that was a fun clip.

 

So good. Okay, a couple of things happening in the news today. Um, we're going to talk about them tomorrow. But first, um, Jim Comey is being arraigned in the Eastern District of Virginia. He was supposed to be arraigned tomorrow, but the court moved it up because of security concerns. And later today, members of Congress, they're going to hold a press conference with some of Jeffrey Epstein's survivors. We had talked about this before to discuss the discharge petition to release the Epstein files. And that last signature. They are still refusing to fucking swear her in.

 

Yes. Adelita Grijalva. Mike Johnson told reporters Tuesday he'd be happy to swear her in whenever she wants to be sworn in, but then he, like, ran away and hid under his wooby. And regarding Jim Comey, by the way, two additional lawyers have signed on to the case on the court docket from the Justice Department, but they're not, uh, from the Eastern District of Virginia. They're from North Carolina. Because no one, Dana, no One in the Eastern District of Virginia at the US Attorney's office would put their names on this.

 

It's amazing. That's amazing. Indictment.

 

So Halligan had to go out of state to find someone, but like I said, it might be too late. Halligan is the only one who signed the indictment and she might not have any authority to do that because she was appointed improperly. And she can't go back to the grand jury and fix it because. Oopsie. The statute of limitations expired on September 30th for Comey's, uh, testimony. So she could be cooked before it even gets out of the gate.

 

That'd be amazing. Uh, by the way, Politico is reporting that Gavin Newsome and JB Pritzker threatened on Monday to withdraw their states from the National Governors Association. That's the nga, if it doesn't condemn Trump's cross state National Guard deployments. This could really put a dent in the dues, by the way, paid to the nga. Because if you think about what California, you know, and Illinois pay, that might. It funds associations, lobbying, communications, management services. Governor Walz and Governor Kelly, they both left in July. Governor Whitmer pulled Michigan out in September. And now the governors of Maryland and New York are considering doing the same thing. So that's a lot of money. It's a lot of money.

 

They're just peacing out. And we do have the Democratic Governors association and we are going to talk later in the show about something that maybe the blue states could do to get together, uh, and put a multi state compact together. It's a really kind of cool opinion piece. So we'll talk about that a little bit later. But this is awful. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has announced a new undercover investigation. Undercover? I guess he's going to go undercover at windmills and gay bars. I'm not sure.

 

It may be. Ken Paxton likes the public restrooms.

 

He really does. It's aimed at infiltrating what he calls leftist terror cells in Texas, um, in the wake of a rise in political violence, which, by the way, is coming from the right. He says, quote, leftist political terrorism is a clear and present danger. Corrupted ideologies like transgenderism and antifa are a cancer on our culture and have unleashed their deranged and drugged up foot soldiers on the American people. So now they're drugged up, I guess. Uh, but this is just, I mean, this is, you know, the the typical authoritarian playbook where they dehumanize a group of people. So it makes it easier to go after them, but he's announced this investigation and he' continuing this anti trans rhetoric. And I just want to say, as always to all of our trans listeners and all our trans friends and the, the LGBTQ + community writ large, that we see you and we love you and we're sending out our hugs and.

 

Support always on, uh, and our voices. And you know that that's true. I do want to end with a little good news in this segment. The Supreme Court on Monday actually declined to hear a high profile challenge to Washington's Climate Commitment act, marking yet another victory for the state's keystone climate policy. So interesting. Um, also we're going to keep you posted. The Supreme Court, um, was hearing a case today about conversion therapy. So as the episodes come this week, I guarantee that that's going to be covered.

 

Yeah, we'll definitely keep you posted on that. I'm not sure when, when the ruling or the decision is going to come. Um, maybe not until spring.

 

Yeah, it'll be a little while. But arguments, they happened. Yeah.

 

But I'm so very happy for Washington state. I know we had Dr. Ven Gupta here on the Daily Beans to talk about that climate, uh, commitment Act. It was to reduce pollution because, you know, it causes asthma in kids. And, you know, and you know, the doctor was telling us about how important this compact was and how the Republicans, billionaires in coal and oil, wanted to dismantle it so that they wouldn't have to follow, you know, rules that, you know, keep children alive, I guess, and healthy.

 

Yes. Yeah.

 

So congratulations to everybody who worked on that case, um, and uh, everybody in Washington state who gets to keep their Climate Commitment act in intact. All right, everybody, we have tons more news to get to, but we have to take a, uh, quick break, so everybody stick around. We'll be right back after these messages.

 

We'll be right back.

 

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And my would love if they did because the FAA right now is a fucking mess. Because all of the air traffic controllers at Burbank Airport in California decided yesterday, understandably, they were going to call in sick. They're not getting paid. A lot of them are having to drive Ubers and Lyfts for a little while so they can pay their bills because they don't know if they're going to get back pay from this government.

 

Yeah. And they have to work 60 hour weeks as air traffic controllers. Was super high stress job. And yeah, while the government was. The Trump administration was cutting those jobs.

 

Uh, I am flying tomorrow morning. Everyone wish all the best.

 

Please let me know how it goes because.

 

Yeah, I'll let you know when I.

 

Fly in a couple weeks.

 

I know. Um, all right, this is from TechCrunch. U.S. immigration and Customs Enforcement, as we know is ICE. They paid 800, 825,000 earlier this year to a company that manufactures vehicles equipped with various technologies for law enforcement, including fake cell phone towers known as cell site simulators, which can be used to spy on nearby phones. What the. The contract was signed with Tech Ops Specialty Vehicles. This is tosv. It's a Maryland based company. TOSV also signed a similar contract with ICE in September of 2024 for about $818,000, showing that the relationship between the agency and the company, it predates the Trump administration. Now, ICE has always been horrible. Okay, so that's what this is showing. They've always been bad regardless, apparently of who was in office. Now, cell site simulators also go by the name Stingrays because some of the earlier types of these devices made by defense contractor Harris, now L3 Harris, that's the name of the contractor by the way. We're not Talking about Kamala, those were named. Okay, those were named that way. Since then, Stingrays, they have become a catch all name for this type of technology. And they're also known as IMSI M catchers. Now, IMSI M stands for International Mobile Subscriber Identity. And that's a unique number that identifies every cell phone user in the world.

 

That's so scary.

 

Terrifying. Terrifying. Just say it. It's fucking terrifying. Now, as the name suggests, cell site simulator tools, they can mimic a cell phone tower, tricking every phone in its nearby range to connect to the device, and thus giving law enforcement the ability to better identify the real world location of those phones and their owner. So if someone's suspected of, let's say, being an undocumented person in this country, they came and may connect to these. Then they can pinpoint exactly where they are. Some cell site simulators can also intercept regular calls, text messages, and Internet traffic. So that's fucking scary. And we're gonna keep you updated on what terrifying thing happens out of this story.

 

Yeah, big, uh, brother for yikes. Next up from the Times, Michael Ellis, the deputy Director of the CIA, has abruptly demoted a career lawyer who had been serving as the agency's general counsel since January and installed himself in that role. That's according to people familiar with the matter. And the timing here is weird because, Dana, for the last week or so, I've been texting friends and colleagues about Michael Ellis specifically. The reason being is that his name came up when, uh, my lawyer friend, uh, the one who's helping me sue to get the Epstein videos, he sent me information about John Bolton's 2020 pre publication book review. And the reason I was interested in that is because, as you know, John Bolton's house was recently raided by Kash Patel's FBI, who claim they found a bunch of classified national defense material. Now, Bolton was actually investigated for the same thing in 2021, and no charges were brought. So it's going to probably be really hard to bring charges again. But back in 2020, Michael Ellis took over the pre publication book review from actual trained professionals and told Bolton that the woman who did the initial review, um, that she was done, and she said everything was okay, but we're waiting on the final green light, and we don't have it yet. And the reason he said he doesn't have it yet, he told Bolton and his lawyer was because of COVID Somehow Covid was delaying the green light memo. Uh, well, it turns out they found out after the fact that Michael Ellis was doing his own review. And the reason we know that is because after he finished his review and flagged a bunch of stuff as classified that was not classified, he actually asked the woman who did the review properly to train him on how to do a review.

 

So.

 

So the delay in approving Bolton's book wasn't about COVID And the initial review was complete and cleared for publication, but Ellis took it over and stalled it, and then they sued Bolton for publishing, uh, before getting the green light. And a judge dismissed the case and said, you're being stupid. So Michael Ellis has long been a Trump ally. Right. He was the lawyer, Dana, that stashed the transcript of the perfect phone call with Zelensky.

 

Ah.

 

In that secret code word classified system called nice. Nice. So it would hide it from everyone. Right. He was also the guy that falsely told Devin Nunes that Obama was wiretapping Trump's campaign. Okay. And in January 2021 days before Trump left office, the outgoing acting Defense Secretary, Chris Miller, installed Ellis as the General Counsel at the National Security Agency over the objections of the actual NSA Director General Paul Nakasone. Now, at that time, Kash Patel was Chief of Staff to Christopher Miller.

 

I'll, um, be. Damn.

 

So the NSA's lawyer stays in office usually when a new president takes over, unlike a political appointee. But the day Biden was sworn in, General Nakasone put Mr. Ellis on leave, in part citing an allegation that he probably mishandled classified information. And he'd only been there for, like, four minutes, so. So why would Ellis, this dickhead, need to install himself as the CIA General Counsel? Well, I'm guessing here, but Trump probably needs the CIA's top lawyer to sign off on something legally dubious.

 

Yeah, that seems right.

 

Okay. And Natasha Bertrand at CNN reported today that the Trump administration has produced a classified legal opinion that justifies lethal strikes against secret and expansive lists of drug cartels and suspected drug traffickers. The opinion from the DoJ, which was produced by the OLC, as we know, lots of OLC memos at the Department of Justice had not been previously reported, and it argues that the President is allowed to authorize deadly force against a broad range of cartels because they pose an imminent threat to Americans. The DOJ opinion forms a key part of the administration's ramped up campaign against Latin American drug cartels, which also includes expanded authorities for the CIA to conduct legal lethal targeting and carry out covert action in the region. Now, a former senior intelligence official told CNN that there is a presidential directive known as a finding for CIA covert action related to counternarcotics missions that date back to the 80s. And that finding, however, is considered open ended as far as defining actions the CIA can take, noting it had been the subject of significant debate inside the Trump administration since the second term began. So the administration had been working to update that finding at the CIA to provide further clarity on specific actions the agency needs to take in the region to further Trump's counter cartel campaign. So if you need an updated legal memo from the CIA, you're going to need someone willing to write it. Plus, using CIA covert ops doesn't require approval of Congress.

 

Ah.

 

Ah. So nobody's really talking about this, but it's scary as fuck to me that we have someone with zero intelligence experience possibly writing memos giving a legal green light to Donald Trump to circumvent Congress to go to war. And again, I don't know for sure this is what Ellis is doing, but all signs point to it.

 

Oh boy. It's amazing how people can connect all these dots. No, no, don't be sorry. Yeah, we gotta know this stuff. Um, but this is. I love this. Actually, this next story is, uh. I like delivering this. It's an, it's an interesting opinion piece, but it gives, uh, some ideas of how the blue states can fight back. And this is from the guardians, so maybe this will be some good news into your veins. Trump is all about political theater or a circus. And it often seems that even in resisting him as decent citizens must do, we become part of the circus too. I know that I have felt crazy during these last nine months. Ten years. Ten years. But why not put on our own show? That's what this opinion piece is saying. Our own form of political theater that leaves Trump out, or at least has a different focus. And here we go. The Trump presidency is a colossal setback to the Constitution and its norms. But it's also an opportunity to change those norms for the better. Like the founders, we should create a limited invitation only body, an embryonic constitutional convention that the anti Trump blue states exclusively set up for themselves, limit to themselves and control. The Constitution already provides some authority for doing this. These selected states are meeting to propose an interstate compact by and between themselves in the spirit of not the letter of the compacts that The Constitution's Article 1, Section 10, Clause 3 describes and for them to submit formally to Congress to adopt as federal law. That's not why they're doing that. Of course. This will never happen in this case, as Congress in its current broken form is incapable of anything like A new Constitution, embryonic or not. But the point is to put forward a prototype for a new type of American government for a post Trump country. And there will be one, one that carries forward part of the existing institutional framework that is worth preserving alongside radical change in response to Trump. So, for example, let us say that New York, California, Massachusetts and Illinois, they declare a national emergency. The governors invite a select number of similar minded anti Trump states to send delegates selected either by the people or the legislature. The delegates job would be to draw up an interstate compact, a declaration of rights of citizens and obligations of the participating governments. And then there should follow a specific list of abuses by the Trump administration, acts of cruelty that should be punished and redressed, and abuses by the Supreme Court, such as Citizens United, that should be voided by states adopting this compact at the outset. The state should also invite D.C. and Puerto Rico to participate as states on the same footing and sign on to this compact. Finally, the compact should include a call to Texas, Florida, Missouri, Mississippi, Ohio and every other non signatory state to join as well, even if they were not originally invited. Okay, so this is after that's already been established. Whatever may be said against such a compact, it would push Trump off stage and show a certain norm breaking nerve. In the early American acts of resistance, only some colonies showed up and the Constitution took effect despite some states staying out of it altogether. The colonists in the period from 1768 to 1776 and the framers in 1787 acted outside the law with no clear process as to how the document should be adopted or amended. It is time for we the people to declare abuses as serious as those set out by Thomas Jefferson and others in the Declaration of Independence. The idea of a compact may be dismissed as political theater, but acts of political theater can turn into the real thing.

 

That's such a cool op, ed. I mean, that's exactly how our Constitution was formed.

 

Yep.

 

And so I think this is a great idea. Now, again, it's theater. Congress won't adopt it, but, uh, that's really not the point at all. Right. So I don't know. I like it.

 

Make the scene, make the scene. I love it.

 

Yeah, me too. All right, next up, some good news for you. A former North Carolina governor, Roy Cooper raised $14.5 million during the first 65 days of his campaign. Wow. Uh, he's a smashing record breaking total for a Senate challenger in their first fundraising quarter in one of the most competitive races in 2026. It's more than double what was raised by former Republican National Committee chair Michael Watley, who brought in $5.8 million since launching his campaign in July. Womp, Womp. Watley, who's been endorsed by Trump, uh, and Cooper are expected to face off next fall. He's running for Senate. He's breaking records. That's almost three times what the Republican raised.

 

I know this isn't part of the story, but I saw some bullshit from Cuomo that was like, trump, I'm opposite. I'm totally up. Trump doesn't want me in office. The best thing that could ever happen to him was, you know, um, is, uh, mom, Donnie. And he's totally he. Now he's trying to say that Trump doesn't want him in office. They couldn't be different. And he did an interview and they were like, how come you guys have the same donors? And he was like, because we're both New Yorkers.

 

Yeah.

 

And she was like, I'm sorry, what? Yeah, I mean, they're gonna donate to Trump and they're gonna donate to me. And she's like, well, wouldn't they be donating to you? Cause you have similar policy. And he's like, no, it's cuz we're both New Yorkers.

 

Mm m. That's how it works.

 

Okay. Yep. I'm telling you, if he says that Mamdani is. And Trump is on social media going, mamdani, I'm gonna defund New York. If you elect him, like, the whole thing's a mess.

 

Isn't Mamdani a New Yorker? I'm. You know what? Okay.

 

I know. Okay. I'm gonna end it with this because we're talking about Trump. Just his popularity plummeting even though he thinks he's more popular than Taylor Swift. Not even. Is he not as popular as Taylor Swift. According to the Guardian. He's not even as popular as Jimmy Kimmel.

 

Nope.

 

Jimmy Kimmel has actually emerged as more popular than Donald. After a spat with the President's administration, temporarily left the talk show host off the air in September. That's according to a recent poll. While the survey published by The Economist and YouGov asked 1656 adults, that's very specific number in the US whether they viewed Kimmel and Trump favorably. Kimmel registered a net favorability of plus 3 after 44% of respondents indicated that they viewed him favorably, 41% now. Trump, meanwhile, had a net favorability of negative 13, with 41% viewing him favorably, 54% unfavorably. That left Trump at a 16 point deficit in terms of popularity to Kimmel who suspension and subsequent reinstatement by abc, delighted. And then rankled the President. That's quite the word they're using there. I read something that 1.7 million subscribers dropped Hulu after they did that to Jimmy Kimmel.

 

Yeah.

 

I'm curious how many of them went back, but that is. That is a massive number and a lot of money.

 

It is huge. I haven't gone back, so. Yeah. Anyway, but thank you for that little bit of good news. I love it. All right, everybody, we have some good trouble for you. It's going to be first up in the good news, but after this quick break, we're going to talk to Dina and Nina Martinez Rutherford, who is running for Wisconsin assembly. And you do not want to miss this interview. Stick around. We'll be right back. Hey, everybody. Welcome back. It's time to Keep It Blue. Um, and joining me today for the Keep It Blue segment is somebody we had on before when, uh, she was running for alder in District 15 in Madison, Wisconsin, and now she's running for Wisconsin Assembly District 76, because the Democrat who occupies that seat, Francesca Hong, is running for governor of Wisconsin. So please welcome Dina Nina Martinez Rutherford. Hi, Dina. Nina. How are you?

 

I'm, um, wonderful. Allison. So good to see you.

 

It's wonderful to see your face. You're happy, smiling, beaming, radiant face. And I'm so excited to talk to you, because the last time we spoke, you were running, uh, and you won, and then you won again. Right. Reelection. Uh, I think, without even really campaigning.

 

Yeah. So isn't that stupid? I loved it. So in January last year, I, uh, filed paperwork to run for reelection. Uh, and then in January, I realized that I had some medical procedures that would have taken me off the campaign trail for several weeks, and that was not a good way to run a campaign. So, um, I suspended, uh, my campaign, endorsed my opponent, and the people of my district voted me in again. And so I accepted it.

 

Right.

 

Yeah. Hey, Will of the people. Yeah.

 

And it was such a beautiful thing, because as a trans person, right now in this country, everything feels fraught and scary. And so to have my district show up, even when I was on the ballot but not officially running and endorsed my opponent said to me that this district believes that we belong.

 

Yeah. And that's huge. Especially right now, you know, Especially right now, when transgender people are just the main target. I mean, every time, you know, the president is on camera, he talks about how the woke left wants to. What does he say? Give. Make transgender for everyone or something. Like, I don't I'm not sure. Um, but then it's, you know, he talks about windmills and dishwashers, uh, and so it's like, it's hard to follow what he's saying. But the attacks are apparent. I mean we saw it after, uh, the death of Charlie Kirk with them assuming that a couple of down arrows in a video game controller sequence stood for transgender ideology or somehow was, ah, antifa because of a phrase used in a video game. And since then, this executive order that's gone out, um, calling transgender people and transgender ideology, whatever that is, uh, somehow part of a, uh, domestic terror organization. And for the Heritage foundation to ask the FBI to list transgender violent extremism, uh, as a problem group in this country, when in fact it's transgender people who are often the survivors of that kind of domestic extremist violence. And so the fact that your district showed up, voted for you, and your representation in that seat is so important, and I think that that's why it's so amazing that you're running now for Wisconsin Assembly District 76. So talk about going from being an alder in District 15 to being in the Wisconsin Assembly. Talk about the differences.

 

Yeah, I mean, I think when the state legislature makes decisions for people, um, Madison feels it, uh, people in Minocqua feel it. And we have been so underfunded as cities that it's hard for us to make ends meet. And I think human beings understand what that's like now more than ever. And so when our state government is voting against the betterment of the working class people, we have a problem. And it's been constant, I've said this all along, that Republicans come to the working class saying, we're going to vote in your favor, we're going to help you get out of poverty, we're going to help you have health care. And every chance they get, they have voted against those things. So showing up as a person who is working class, a person who experiences poverty is my primary goal. And just be like, look, trans people are not coming after your health insurance. The Republicans are. Trans people aren't coming after your, your well being and health care. Republicans are. And so I think really fighting for cities and working class people to get a hand up is vital at this moment because if not, we know what's coming.

 

Yeah. And I think, you know, right now, number one issue on most people's minds is affordability in the cities they live in. I think that's why mom Donnie is doing so well. He actually goes out and asks the people what do you need from me? And they say, have a place to live, that I can afford the dignity of work, uh, and a living wage, um, so that I can afford health care, which the Republicans, uh, now are trying to double, triple, sometimes quadruple the price on. So let's talk about some of the initiatives that you've worked on, some of the committees you've worked on, because I think it's really important that we address some of these, uh, huge issues that are not just ignored by Republicans, but taken and uh, turned around and blamed on the wrong people instead of the billionaires. So you worked on city county homeless issues, that committee. So talk about unhoused people and affordability for housing in your district.

 

So there's a lot of crossover with city, county homelessness issues and community development block grant. And we're seeing an incredible surge in people experiencing homelessness in the city. Um, and I fear unless we write this ship, a lot more people, our neighbors are going to be experiencing homelessness. Um, we went to referendum last year to help the city just have a cost to continue because we have a structural deficit from the state, um, that is crippling, uh, especially blue cities. Um, luckily we've been able to carve out a couple million dollars more, but it's still not enough to keep up with inflation and it's still not enough to continue just to continue services. So during the last several years we've had several programs that were fully funded by, uh, federal money from the Biden administration who poured into social services and transportation. And now we're seeing that dry up. So there are individuals in our city, uh, and not just our city, but all around the state who are unable to get stably housed because our federal government and our state legislature see fit to punish poverty. And as somebody who's been in poverty for a lot of my life, you know, I understand how damn expensive it is to be poor. It costs more, it costs more time in labor, it costs more time and energy, uh, working and taking care of our families. And so our goal has really been to pour into homeless services in a way that helps people get a hand up, teaches them, helps them get ready, has, um, you know, services, uh, that are meeting the needs of that population. Um, currently we, we are building a purpose built men's shelter that will be open 24 hours and that will have services on site, including uh, job training and things like that. For, for those individuals who are coming into, um, coming in to stay, uh, there as guests. It's not enough. We don't we thought we were going to have enough money from the federal government, uh, from the state government. And we are in a bind, both county and city, to just get that functional to meet those needs. And so other services and population of it is going to be impacted if we can't get a hand on it. So we are looking at ways to really meet the needs of that population by trying to do public private partnerships, asking, uh, big corporations who are centered here, who pour into, um, our economy through their workforce, that they also help us meet the needs of the population who aren't in the workforce and who need housing. Because we know when big companies come into a city, they take up a lot of the housing. Over the last several years, we've been working really hard to build more housing. Like we still, our increase in population is growing and continuing. It's not going to stop. So we're doing our best to really meet the needs of the people right now. And I think from, uh, the Assembly, I'll be able to challenge a lot of the preemptions that we have around what kind of housing and, and where and how we can build housing. Uh, well, I can challenge a bunch of those preemptions that punish poverty, punish, um, people in poverty. And we can fund more public housing, not only in Madison and in Milwaukee and Eau Claire, the more progressive places in Wisconsin, but across the state. Because it's not just a big city problem, it's a national problem.

 

Right. And I think that that particular kind of thing, those services are at the center of a lot of other issues. Those services and their impact don't live in a vacuum. Right. Because it has tentacles in jobs and the economy and healthcare and education. I mean, it unlocks so many opportunities for so many Wisconsinites. And I wanted to ask you about 76, because I think it's, it's important to talk about the makeup of, of your district, but also the balance of power in the Assembly. What is the current balance of power in the Wisconsin Assembly?

 

Well, the redistricting that just happened gives, uh, that just happened last year gives us a chance to really make inroads into, um, getting a majority. And I believe it makes inroads in giving us a majority in both the House and the Senate or in the assembly and the Senate, as well as hopefully, um, keeping the governor spot.

 

Uh.

 

So my goal is to work my butt off to make sure that we have a blue trifecta in the state. Um, I'm definitely going to be focusing on my district, District 76. It is a Very progressive district. I, uh, don't think a conservative has held this, uh, seat in a very long time. Um, and I think about the simpatico with Francesca, uh, Hong, who's running for governor right now in our messaging. Like, we both come from.

 

Working, ah.

 

Class backgrounds, we both come from service hospitality industry. And we know what it's like when we can't make enough to put meals on our table. And although a lot of the people are fairly resourced on the isthmus, there are still part of the district that struggles with housing meeting, uh, their basic needs. And so it's very, uh, broad spectrum, but ideologically we tend to be a lot more progressive and have a big heart for the people that need it most. So great district.

 

Yeah. And, you know, Wisconsinites on the whole, um, have been showing up right, regardless of district, regardless of party, because people are starting to notice it's not left versus right, it's top versus bottom. And we saw Wisconsinites beat. We saw people power beat money in that Wisconsin Supreme Court, uh, both of them. Wisconsin Supreme Court election. But especially when Elon Musk trots in and has a lottery and tries to drop $25 million, uh, which is couch change to him, but whatever, to uh, try to take that election away. And so, you know, I'm not gonna light $25 million on fire. Uh, but, you know, he, I guess, has the resources to do that. But people see that, you know, Wisconsinites, Americans in general, are not stupid. They see what the billionaire class is doing to the working and middle class and the unhoused and the less fortunate. And I think that we're seeing that tide turn, especially in Wisconsin, because I remember for a long time it was like, Michigan, Wisconsin, Michigan was like, come on Wisconsin, join us. And Wisconsin's like, deal. And like, everybody got up and motivated themselves and mobilized, uh, to make their lives better. And I think we're in the middle of a pretty important and historical transformation in Wisconsin politics. And I'm so very glad you're a part of that.

 

Yeah, I would agree with that. When I moved here 13 years ago from Los Angeles, I was like, oh, I'm going to get murdered or married. And one of the things that I've found so lovely about this state is everywhere I've gone, even the smaller towns, they may not know that I'm trans, but I feel this warmth everywhere I go. Um, and yes, when I disclose who I am, sometimes it gets saucy when I, uh, you know, in some areas when I talk about caring for the sick And. And people in homelessness. Um, I get pushback, but it all.

 

Comes back from Christians.

 

I mean, I look, I speak evangelically. I grew up in that background.

 

Yeah, girl, you sound like Jesus.

 

Heaven forbid. What's wrong with you?

 

Yeah, yeah.

 

Uh, literally.

 

And that's. That's literally kind of the message I go back to. I may not call myself a Christian anymore, but. But that dude was pretty radical. So I go back to that space where I'm like, we are here to care for one another. And. Yeah, but. Yeah, but I think about Wisconsin. Like, we have a history of helping people raise barns. We have a history of fighting for unionization and, and really building unions and solidarity. We have a history of LGBT rights. Like, we have been a progressive state. And we are currently, um, 50. 50, like, so tight, so close. Like, it's definitely like half and half, uh, as far as conservative, uh, and more progressive people. But we have a chance to envision what a future looks like, and that's what this movement is about. We want a future that values the working class. We want a future that sees our neighbors and welcomes them. And that's what Wisconsinites want. Wisconsinites want people, their neighbors to be able to pay for their, you know, for their. The needs that they have. They want to help each other take care of their children. They want, you know, fully funded public education. And I think now more than ever, we have a chance to say, this is what we want and this is how we do it.

 

Yeah. And the foundation is just a super strong sense of community. They're not, you know, in the Midwest writ large, but especially in Wisconsin. So. So I'm super glad you're running and, you know, we support you. And I would also like for you to let listeners know how they can support your campaign for Wisconsin Assembly.

 

Yeah, absolutely. We need volunteers, donors and dollars or donations and votes. That's what we need, those things. So vote dinanina.com it'W-I-N-A n I n a.com and, uh, you can contribute there. You can volunteer no matter where you're from. We can put you to work. Like, if you're on the co, feel free to. To sign up to volunteer. We can put you on the phones. We can help you, get you to help us with other things. Um, additionally, there are some really key races. We have another Supreme Court race coming up. Chris Taylor is running for, um, for Supreme Court. She held this seat two terms ago. Or, um, uh, she. She held the seat before Francesca Hong. Incredible work she's doing and, uh, we need her in our Supreme Court so we can continue holding the power and fighting against tyranny from the federal government. And we need to start looking at how we win the governor seat and win the majority in both, both houses. We have to start doing that. So, um, go to DEAN andina, vote deananinanina.com. we'll get you connected. If you want to know how you can support the other candidates, I will be happy to let you know. Because this is a big tent. We are a big tent. And we're gonna, we're gonna hold a trifecta in, uh, 2026, so support that all you can.

 

Well, we appreciate your time and we, uh, we look forward to probably having you back on as the midterms approach. So thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate it.

 

Thank you, Alison. Always great to talk to you.

 

All right, everybody, stick around. We'll be right back with the good news. All right, everybody, welcome back. It's time for the good news. Who likes good news?

 

Everyone then.

 

And if you have any good news confessions, corrections, you want to give a shout out to a loved one or yourself, or maybe a small business in your area or a non profit that's doing really good work that you want to spotlight, we would love to hear from, from you about that. Any little bit of good news that's happened to you, big or small, recent or in the distant past, send that to us. You can also send a shout out to a government program that's helped you or a loved one. And uh, all you got to do to get your submission read on the air is pay your POD pet tariff. Which means really, for us, just attach a photo of whatever, it doesn't matter.

 

Send a photo, we'll take it. Something cute, something pretty.

 

It can be your pet. We can try to guess the breeds in your shelter pup. If you want, you can send an adoptable pet in your area. If you don't have a pet, you can send a random photo of an animal on the Internet. Send a bir watching photo which can be a bird, or you and your family and friends flipping the bird to trump or musk or whoever deserves it. Um, also we accept, uh, photos of family stuff. Like awkward. Family photos are always fun. Baby pictures. We love baby pictures. Um, what else do we accept? I mean, pretty much just any, any photo you can think of. Your maybe show us what you're making or creating. Right?

 

Uh, we love those, man. We have some very talented listeners.

 

Yeah, knitting, painting, crocheting, quilting. Um, we have so many great makers and creators who listen to this show. All right, so send it all to us dailybeanspod.com click on Contact. First up is your good trouble. And this comes from Larry s Calling out Apple. He, uh, said he sent an email to Tim Cook. To Tim Apple. Right, Tim Apple. And his email apparently is tcookapple.com and Larry says, dear Tim, I've been an Apple fan since they first came out. I'll always be an Apple fan. I'll always buy your products over other products. And I've always liked how Apple is a Rebel. Remember the 1984 commercials? Please quit capitulating. Please stop giving this dictator what he wants which will help destroy democracy. Please, Tim. Removing Ice Block and the Ice Block app is the latest. It's embarrassing. It's totally embarrassing. Going to see you kiss the ring and present Donald Trump with gifts is if you were presenting gifts to a monarch. I don't buy other products for this reason. When all is said and done and the history books are written, please let Apple continue to be seen in a good light. Remember how Google's motto was don't be evil? But then they got rid of that. Well, I've always thought that Apple could adopt that motto. Not so much anymore. It's contributing to evil. Please Tim, I beg you to stop capitulating. Future generations will thank you. Proud Apple owner and stockholder Larry Singer. And then Larry says, um, please everybody, email MrCookApple.com and let him know what you think about the removal of Ice Block from the Apple app store.

 

All right, thank you so much for the good news. Now this is from Marty. No pronouns given from Marty. I'd like to give a shout out to my friend Jeannie who when feeling overwhelmed in Trump country, reaches out to me. I'm grateful for audiobooks and my knitting that somewhat distract me from the news. Looking forward to the upcoming protest day with the content of the seventh page page of my protest flip chart. I needed a flip chart because there's so much to protest. Also grateful for my intelligent and kind grandkids. And the sign says so much to protest. I need a flip chart.

 

This is so cool. So they took a bunch of posters and you know those rings that you would normally see in a three ring binder? Punched holes in all of them and connected them together with these rings so they can flip their sign and change it. I love it. This is so fantastic. Oh, look at that. Beautiful.

 

It's gorgeous.

 

Oh my gosh, the colors are amazing.

 

Yep, all mhm.

 

Right next up from Jen Pronoun she and her. This year, I have fostered 32 cats and kittens. Wow.

 

Wow.

 

My most recent foster has the best story. Magnolia has been through so much. She came to me in a feral box, scared, skin and bones and heavily pregnant with seven tiny lives depending on her.

 

Her.

 

She wasn't a fan of me at first. Fair enough. But over time, she learned that love and safety are real things. Oh, uh. Breaks my heart. She faced a heartbreak and loss. Only two of her seven babies survived. Yet through it all, Magnolia has shown nothing but courage, grace, and fierce devotion. Watching her transform from a terrified, starving stray into a trusting, affectionate and resilient beauty has been one of the most moving experiences of my fostering journey. Magnolia deserves the world. A calm, loving home where she can finally be cherished the way she's always deserved. She'll be ready for adoption soon, along with her babies, Rowan and Hickory, via the Aurora, Colorado animal shelter. If her story touches you, please reach out and share her incredible journey of love, loss and survival. Potential adopters email@straughtman householdmail.com we'll have that email in the show notes. Look at these babies. And look at this beautiful mama.

 

That's so cute. Oh, m. I know I say I'm not a cat person, but I am a kitten person.

 

If you fostered 32 cats and this is one of the most moving stories. I mean, that's a moving story, Jen.

 

Yeah.

 

Thank you.

 

Amazing. All right, this is from Anonymous. Pronoun she and her hi Beanie babes. So you want to know what I'm doing? I have this puzzle to put together. It's been three weeks and I haven't even managed to get a border completed. Usually I would be on the third puzzle by now, but this one is kicking my butt. But never say die. Also sending POD pet tariff. My cat is afraid he will meet a coyote, so he's staying close to the door. Silly thing. Now, I'm also a puzzle person, and I can understand why this one might be giving you a hard time.

 

Yeah, it's just the ocean. It's all blue and white and like, that's it.

 

That's it. This is, uh. Now I want to find this puzzle because I'm like, let. Challenge acceptance.

 

Challenge accepted. Never say die, Goonies. Never say die.

 

That's right.

 

Never give up. Never surrender. Keep us posted. I want to. I. I would. On Anonymous. I would like updates on this puzzle, please. All right, next up from Martha from Denver [Riggleman, pronoun she and her. I hope you aren't tired of hearing how great and smart you are? Because I truly appreciate everything you both do to make our world better. For self care, I try to take one photo every day of something that makes me happy. I love this idea. I caption the photo and then put it in an album on my phone. Gratitude. Then when I'm in a waiting situation or when I'm feeling down, I scroll through this album instead of doom scrolling.

 

Oh, that's smart.

 

I got the idea from a CNN article a few years ago and I have almost 400 pictures in it. Okay everybody, you hear that? This is so great. Martha from Denver [Riggleman, you go scroll through these beautiful photos instead of doom scrolling. My Pod Tax is mostly of beautiful fall colors but. But can you guess my dog's breed from that silver head?

 

Uh, it's a doodle of some sort.

 

Some sort of doodle. That's the best I can do with this limited view. Oh, uh, Bernie Doodle.

 

All right. Hi Bernie. Hi. It's a Bernie and a doodle.

 

Mountain dog and a doodle. Very awesome. Thank you so, so very much Martha.

 

All right. Um, Adrian G. Pronoun she and her.

 

Oh is that my mom?

 

Maybe M M. I don't know. Let me see how old she is. Adrian G. Pronouns she and her hello beautiful bean babes, Bean crew and the gumanati. I wanted to give a shout out plug for free online October 15th through the 16th that I'm helping organize. This is an event in October. It's a nonprofit called WordPress Accessibility Day. Okay cool. We're have a link in the show notes because it's a little complicated. It's not going to make sense. I'll drop in the website blurb because they had an actual content creators as opposed to me and graphic web designers. So here you WordPress Accessibility Day is a 24 hour global event dedicated to promoting and learning website accessibility best practices. WordPress Accessibility Day is a nonprofit event volunteer organized by members of the core WordPress accessibility team and other community members. Our mission is to demystify Website Accessibility for WordPress developers, designers, content creators and users so that they can build websites that work for everyone. I totally would have signed up for this if I had not switched to squarespace. By the way Way this is my third year on the organizing team and given how much is being done to harm people with disabilities here in the US I'm even more grateful for this community of smart, kind, good people. For Pod Pet Tax I sent in photos of my goofball torty cat Abby, a Couple of months ago. So today I'm sending in our friends, two dogs. Feel free to guess their breeds because we don't know and you'll be 100% right. They came over two days last week while their house was undergoing major repairs from a slab leak which we refer to them as our part time dogs as they come over at any time their people are busy or out of town. Thought we'd have them permanently when life shut down in March of 2020 and our friends were stuck in Hawaii for a couple of weeks before flights resumed. The cat is Twigs, a one year old spayed cute. Excuse me, Cutie who's available for adoption at the Orange County Animal Shelter in Tustin, California. She and five other black and white spotted cats were taken on July 7th. Yes, I totally filtered the results so I could post kitty who's been there the longest. And there's going to be a link to that in our show notes for this kitty that's been here the longest. If someone wants to adopt. Last picture is my sign from a protest outside California 40, Representative Young Kim's office. She's on the human trafficking subcommittee, yet refuses to sign the discharge position. Oh my God. That. That bloat that makes me so angry. Ag.

 

Yep.

 

Um, the new map will get a little harder in our district if the new proposition passes, but I'll just fight that much harder to flip this district. Thanks to the daily beans cleanup. Jack Unjustified. I am finally brave enough to write and call my reps and senators. Not the Young Kim appreciates it, but I appreciate all you do to keep us informed, educated and sane. Ish. During all this fuckery. As my husband says, we have to take turns holding the umbrella in the shit stories store.

 

I love it. Look at this sign. Repyoung Kim protects pedophiles. Love it. Look at these dogs.

 

Very cute. I would say they're both Chihuahuas. And one of them is a mix on the left, but the one on the right looks like a. I don't know.

 

That's a part sausage, part.

 

Thank you. I was like, is it a brat Chihuahua? It's a Chihuahua. Worst.

 

Look at the little leggies.

 

It's so cute.

 

Adorable. Oh, uh, thank you so much. Is that a society six pillow? It's beautiful. I love it. All right. Anyway, thank you. Thank you so much. Adrian G. You have a great name. I will let my mom know. Next up from anonymous. Good beans. I live in Southeast Portland and the fucking ice stoppo at the waterfront facility are beyond abusive. There are brave True hearted protesting 24 7. These completely awesome people. People are the ones documenting Ice Ice's land use permit violations. They pay a high personal price. The cruelty chemically based and physically, uh, uh, physical abuse by federal agents. It's scary and fucked up. Uh, what these warriors battling for us all are going through. Don't know the names, but yeah, to Portland's warriors. Have a pic of me flipping the bird to Bone Spur Bitch. That's a great photo.

 

That is Cankles and Bone Spur Bitch.

 

Yeah, Cankles was rankled this week.

 

So good.

 

Thank you all so much for your incredible good news. If you have any good news and if you have any good trouble recommendations you'd like to send our way, you can do it by going to DailyBeansPod.com and clicking on Contact. That is our show. Thanks to Dean Andina. She's just so great.

 

I love her.

 

She's amazing. Uh, it was wonderful to see her beautiful face. Um, do you have any final thoughts before we get out of here here on this Taint of the Week day?

 

I do not.

 

All right, me neither. I can't think of anything except maybe we should maybe explain Taint of the week to new listeners. Nah, you know what?

 

No, another day. Google it. Don't click on any pictures or videos, but Google it.

 

Don't know.

 

No, no, no, no. Hey, do me a favor. Yeah. Oh, no, I forgot we hadn't signed off yet.

 

Give me an edit because I was.

 

Going to ask you a question that had nothing to do with the podcast.

 

I don't know if I want to edit that out.

 

You can leave it in everyone. So what happens is we do our sign off and then AG and I talk shit afterwards. Not about you guys, but about everyone else. And then I forgot we hadn't done the sign off and I was about to ask her to do something for me that no one, no one else needed to hear. So why don't we go ahead and sign off so I can ask you that question.

 

The answer is probably yes, but the.

 

Answer is definitely going to be yes, by the way.

 

You should just, ah, you know, just tell me what you're going to do instead of ask. Um, because, you know, that's how things work in this world. Anyway, you guys are amazing. And we'll see you tomorrow. We'll both be back in your ears. Uh, along with, uh, who am I? Oh, you know what I'm interviewing tomorrow, Zach? Uh, Representative Dan Goldman.

 

Nice.

 

So you'll be able to hear from. From the congressman from New York tomorrow. So until then, everybody, please take care of yourselves. Take care of each other. I'm excited to see what you're going to ask.

 

Oh, you're going to be, it's going to be, this is going to be very anticlimactic. Take care of the planet.

 

Take care of, um, your mental health. Take care of each other, your mental health, your mental health and your family. Thank you for the assist. I never, I've never interrupted my sign off before. For everybody, we'll see you tomorrow. I've been ag. I've been dg and them's the Beans. The Daily Beans is written and executive produced by Allison Gill with additional research and reporting by Dana Goldberg. Sound design and editing is by Desiree McFarlane with art and web design by Joelle Reader with Moxie Design Studios. Music for the Daily Beans is written and performed by they Might Be Giants and the show is a proud member of the MSW Media Media Network, a collection of creator owned podcasts dedicated to news, politics and just justice. For more information Please visit msw media.com msw media.