Friday, September 12th, 2025 Today, right wing activists and now federal authorities are targeting people who appeared to celebrate the death of Charlie Kirk on social media; potential threats trigger lockdowns at several HBCUs across the South; some appeals court judges have publicly admonished the Supreme Court’s run on the shadow docket; we’re getting more information on the shooter at the Colorado high school; a judge in Arizona has blocked the removal of dozens of immigrant children; the First Circuit Court of Appeals allows Medicaid cuts to Planned Parenthood; Senate Republicans on Thursday triggered a nuclear option to allow easy confirmation of Trump nominated judges; and Allison and Dana deliver your Good News.
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Today, right wing activists and now federal authorities are targeting people who appeared to celebrate the death of Charlie Kirk on social media; potential threats trigger lockdowns at several HBCUs across the South; some appeals court judges have publicly admonished the Supreme Court’s run on the shadow docket; we’re getting more information on the shooter at the Colorado high school; a judge in Arizona has blocked the removal of dozens of immigrant children; the First Circuit Court of Appeals allows Medicaid cuts to Planned Parenthood; Senate Republicans on Thursday triggered a nuclear option to allow easy confirmation of Trump nominated judges; and Allison and Dana deliver your Good News.
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Um, MSW Media media. Hello and welcome to the Daily beans for Friday, September 12, 2025. Today, right wing activists announced federal authorities are targeting people who appeared to celebrate the death of Charlie Kirk on social media. Potential threats trigger lockdowns at several HBCUs across the South. Some appeals court judges have publicly admonished the Supreme Court's run on the shadow docket. We're getting more information on the shooter at the Colorado high school. A judge in Arizona has blocked the removal of dozens of immigrant children. The First Circuit Court of Appeals is allowing Medicaid cuts to Planned Parenthood. And Senate Republicans on Thursday triggered a nuclear option to allow easy confirmation of blocks of Trump nominated executive branch employees. I'm Allison Gill.
And I'm Dana Goldberg.
Hey, Dana. I'm doing a little better today. You doing a little better today?
I, um, am. I've been reading some things, put some things into perspective, but definitely a little bit better today. I got some sleep for the first time. Like, good sleep for the first time in, like, three days. So, yes, just little things are getting better.
Good, good. Yeah. I was just thrown by the video.
I'm so sorry. You actually watched that? I got a warning from a friend that was like, do not. And so anytime I see any sort of a, uh, video about the event come up, I scroll past as soon as possible, just in case it is that. In case it's just shooting.
I should have scrolled past it, but Fugal, uh, Sang is here. John Fugle saying our friend. Because it's Fugal saying Friday's on the Bean, so we're going to talk to him about all this a little bit later. And, um, WBAL is reporting right now. My. My phone is blown up. They just locked down Annapolis, the Naval Academy.
Oh, boy.
Uh, here's a quote. We cannot confirm an active threat, but we're searching the area out of an abundance of caution. That's Cortland Jackson, a spokesperson for the police department. Also, UMass, I think, was put on lockdown, as well as the DNC and HBCUs. So we're going to talk about some of that in the hot notes. A little bit of good news. Thanks to all of you for listening to the show. We've. The Daily Beans has been verified on Blue sky, so that's kind of cool.
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Your handle on Bluesky. If you Change it to danaelgoldberg.com. you're way more likely to get verified that way.
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Yeah, we'll do. No problem. Anyway, so thanks everybody for listening. Welcome to all our new listeners. We really appreciate it. If you have good news to send in, we're going to get to that at the end of the show after we talk to Fugal saying, uh, you can send that in@dailybeanspod.com and click on contact. And we do have a bunch of news to get to today. So let's hit the hot notes. Hot, uh, notes. All right, first up from A.B. a 16 year old student who authorities say opened fire at his Colorado high school on Wednesday, wounding two classmates and then turning the gun on himself was believed to be, quote, radicalized by some extremist network. That's what officials with the local sheriff's office said. The gunfire at Evergreen High School broke out at about 12:24pm local time. And that's according to the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office. Three students were taken to the hospital in critical condition following the gunfire, including the suspected shooter who was injured by a self inflicted gunshot wound. The suspect was identified as 16 year old Desmond Hawley. Jefferson county sheriff officials said that during a press conference Thursday and an image of the shooter was also released by officials. The suspect allegedly went through the school trying to, quote, find new targets, but came upon, quote, roadblocks as doors were locked and he could not keep shooting victims. That's what the sheriff's department said. While authorities are still looking into the shooter's motive, they believe he was, quote, radicalized by some extremist network and that he had a mission. Authorities say they're trying to better understand that network and are searching his phone, home and locker to learn more on whom he was communicating with before the shooting. The sheriff's office said Thursday no one has been released from the hospital yet despite earlier reports from hospital officials saying one of the injured had been released. And that is the latest that we have on that tragic shooting at a high school in Colorado.
All right, thanks, Alison. This is from the Hill. A top State Department official on Thursday warned foreigners in the US against praising the death of Charlie Kirk, as we know, the conservative influencer who was shot and killed at an event on Wednesday in Utah. And I quote, in light of yesterday's horrific assassination of, uh, a leading political figure, I want to underscore that foreigners who glorify violence and hatred are not welcome visitors to our country. This is Deputy Secretary of State Christopher Landau said in on Thursday morning post on Twitter. I have many issues with his post, the whole statement.
Thank you.
He's not a leading political figure.
It's not an assassination.
It was an assassination. Martin Luther King was assassinated. I just, I can't, I can't. But we'll continue on.
Yeah, and the use of foreigners too, like, come on.
Yeah, he said. I've been. There's another quote. I've been disgusted to see some on social media praising, rationalizing and making light of the event and have directed our consular officials to undertake appropriate action. Again, that's. Landau went on to say, please feel free to bring such comments by foreigners to my attention so that the State Department can protect the American people. Oh, cool.
Free speech still alive and well.
Yep, yep. And this one's from Wired. It seems far right influencers and violent extremists. They're posting identifying details about people that they view as celebrating or glorifying the murder of the right wing activist Charlie Kirk. Now the campaign has been swift and widespread and has already led to at least one person losing their job and others receiving death threats. The people posting the identifying information include Chaya Raicheck, who is Libs of TikTok, by the way. She's a horrible human being. Laura Loomer, there's another fucking upstanding person and former Proud Boys leader Enrico tarrio. So those three would 100% dox you. So please be careful. A central hub of this activity is a website called Charlie's Murderers, which was registered in the early evening on the day Kirk was shot and is revealing certain personal information such as social media usernames and email addresses of individuals. The operators believe we're celebrating the horrific murder now. The operators believe these three horrible people could just basically name anyone they fucking want.
Mhm.
At this point.
Yeah. And if you're here on a visa and you've said something about Charlie Kirk, you could get your visa yanked. Yeah, no. Anyway, this is the ripple effects from what happened, so we're going to keep reporting on this. Also from cnn, multiple historically black colleges and universities in the south were on lockdown or canceled classes on Thursday over potential threats. Hampton University, Virginia State University, Bethune Cookman, Alabama State. They were all on lockdown after receiving, quote, potential threats to campus safety. And that's according to posts on social media. The lockdowns came one day after Charlie Kirk, prominent conservative activist and Trump ally, died after a shooting at a Utah college campus event and on the heels of a wave of active shooter hoaxes at several Other college campuses across the country. Spelman College in Georgia also issued a shelter in place order, which was lifted on Thursday afternoon after the college said neighboring Clark Atlanta University received a threat. Atlanta police told CNN that they're assisting Southern University. And A and M College in Baton Rouge was also on lockdown, but has since lifted and all campus activities and classes are canceled for Thursday, Friday and through the weekend. The nature of the threats is not immediately known. The FBI is aware of, quote, hoax threat calls to HBCUs, and the agency's Norfolk field office said that in an email to cnn. Now, I don't think that the FBI or this Department of Justice is going to do much about this.
Agreed.
The DNC was also shut down, like I said, over threats. UMass in Boston shut down. Annapolis Naval Academy shut down over threats. And as far as the DNC headquarters goes in D.C. capitol Police swept the area and found nothing credible. So these are all hoax threats, bomb threats that are called in.
And I just want to say something, and I've been reading what I. What I said, um, about Charlie Kirk. And, um, him being murdered did not change who he was, if that makes sense. And he wasn't a passionate debater. He was someone who spewed lies and hatred, misogyny, racism, transphobia, homophobia. I have a friend, a personal friend, who has a trans child. He targeted their family directly. And the hate that ensued through that and the danger he put them in is real. There's a black professor that is on, quote, unquote, the list that Charlie Kirk had put out of black professors around this country. And the hate and danger and death threats to all of the professors on this list is real. So even though I don't condone murder, I also don't want his murder to change who this person really was. Because there's some people on both sides of the aisle all of a sudden saying, oh, we needed that sort of debate in this world. We did not need this sort of debate in this world, because some of it wasn't debate, it was targeting. And so I just want people to remember that there is a lot of stuff trying to change history about this person. I feel for his family. But one of the most powerful things I read is that I don't support what happened to Charlie Kirk, but Charlie Kirk supported what happened to Charlie Kirk.
Yeah, I saw that and shared it earlier. And. Yeah, and thank you for saying that, because the whitewashing of Charlie Kirk, that's happening. Matthew Dowd was fired from MSNBC for telling the truth about who Charlie Kirk was. Everyone seems to think that if you talk about who Charlie Kirk was and the things, if you repeat the things he said that he proudly said that he would want you to know that he said that somehow you're blaming him for this or condoning the murder and that's not it at all. And I'm very worried and I'm going to talk about this on my video pod. I might as touch this weekend. I'm very worried about first impressions, people who aren't plugged into politics, people, you know, people who don't listen to daily beans, people who don't pay attention to all this stuff. They probably don't know who Charlie Kirk is.
Yeah.
And the first taste of him they're going to get from the media is.
This martyr is that he was a.
31 year old who did politics. Right. And reached across the aisle to speak to his, his political opponents. And they're just leaving out so much about who he was. And I, I don't think it serves anyone to, to San Wash. What he espoused.
Agreed. And I know there are people listening to this podcast right now who are personally hurt by comments or propaganda. And um, you are in our thoughts and I'm sure reading some of this somehow eulogizing this guy in a way that is not real is triggering and so just know that we see you and in this community we definitely understand and support it.
Okay, I got that on my chest.
Yeah. This one's from NBC. Republicans triggered the nuclear option to change the rules of the Senate on a party line basis Thursday. That's a move that's going to allow them to speed up confirmation of President Trump's nominees for key executive branch positions. The vote was 53 to 45 to establish a new rule that allows the Senate to confirm an unlimited number of nominees in block rather than process each one individually. And they did this before. Now the rule applies. And they froze it of course, when Biden was. Yeah, but the rule applies to executive branch nominees subject to two hours of Senate debate, including sub cabinet picks and ambassadors. It will not affect judicial nominations. Okay. Republicans say they'll allow their own senators to object to individual nominees in any given block. But the rule will strip away the power of the minority party to do the same thing. Senate Majority Leader John Thune, he's the Republican from South Dakota, he initiated the process by bringing up a package of 48 Trump nominees which under long standing rule had been subject to the 60 vote threshold. The vote to advance them, it failed due to Democratic opposition. Well, then Thune sought to reconsider, and Republicans subsequently voted to overrule the chair, setting up a new precedent and establishing the new rule. Thune had telegraphed the move for weeks, accusing Democrats of creating the unattainable situation with historic obstruction of Trump's nominees. Go fuck yourself on that one, by the way. Yeah. Uh, the vote was held up for hours on Thursday as the two parties engaged in last ditch negotiations to strike a deal to avoid those rule changes. But it failed, and Republicans chose to proceed.
Yeah, figures. Um, it's like whenever we have the Democrats have control of the Senate, I'm like, nuke this, nuke that. We're like, no, we need it in place. The Republicans won't ever do it to us. Well, here it is.
Yeah.
Yeah. Let's win back the Senate and nuke the filibuster.
Huh?
Huh? How about it?
Yep.
All right. Some legal news from Politico. Frustrated federal appeals court judges publicly wrestled Thursday with how to follow vague signals. And that's in quotes from the Supreme Court contained in tersely worded and often unexplained orders handed down on the emergency docket. Some judges on the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals even questioned whether they still had a role to play or were expected, at least in some cases, to simply reiterate the high court's orders and leave it at that. Quote, they're leaving the circuit courts, the district courts, out in limbo. That's Judge James Wynn, an Obama appointee, during oral arguments in a case about the Department of Government Efficiency, employees, access to social data. Quote, we're out here flailing. I'm not criticizing the justices. They're just using a vehicle that's there, but they're telling us nothing. They could easily just give us direction and we would follow it, unquote. Another quote, they cannot get amnesia in the future because they didn't write an opinion on it. Write an opinion. That's what Wynn said. We need to understand why you did it. We judges would love to hear your reasoning as to why you rule that way. It makes our job easier so we can follow the law. We will follow the Supreme Court, but we'd to know what it is we are following.
That sounds fair.
I love this that they're just saying it now in, in, in arguments. I know that, like, about a dozen judges talked to NBC last week on the condition of anonymity complaining about the same thing, and now they're just saying it out in open court during oral arguments. Go 4th Circuit. This is from Bloomberg. The Trump administration's Department of Health and Human Services may withhold Medicaid reimbursements to Planned Parenthood affiliates under a, uh, federal appeals court order Thursday that blocked a lower court's preliminary injunction protecting the clinics. So basically the big billionaire bailout bill pulled Medicaid funding for Planned Parenthood.
Yeah.
Ah, a lower court judge said you can't do that. And now an appeals court is saying, yes, you can. The Health and Human services in the case argued that the provision in Congressional Republicans tax and spending law imposed a one year pause on Medicaid reimbursements to centers that offer abortion care. It doesn't amount to a targeted punishment prohibited under the U.S. constitution. That's what the court said here. Quote, notwithstanding the contrary conclusion reached by the district court after its careful consideration of the matter, we conclude that defendants have met their burden to show their entitlement to a stay of the preliminary injunction pending the disposition of their appeals of the same. That's what Thursday's order said. The ruling stays a July 28 order from Judge Indira Talwani of the U.S. district Court in the District of Massachusetts. And it's the First Circuit Court of Appeals, by the way, that stayed her order. Her order enjoined HHS from applying the provision to Exclude Planned Parenthood 600 health centers for Medicaid reimbursements while litigation over the statute proceeds. Federal. You know, the law is clear. Federal funding doesn't pay for abortions. So to strip Medicaid funding for things like breast exams and std, uh, exams and treatment and cholesterol, having your blood drawn, you know, stuff that other stuff that Planned Parenthood does. Apparently the First Circuit is now allowing that. I'm assuming that this will be appealed either en banc to the full panel of the First Circuit or to the Supreme Court. And we'll see where it goes from there.
Yeah. Thanks, Alison. I've got some better news. This is coming from the Associated Press. A federal judge in Arizona temporarily blocked the Trump administration from removing dozens of Guatemalan and Honduran children living in shelters or foster care after coming to the U.S. alone. That's according to a decision Thursday. U.S. district Judge Rosemary Marquez in Tucson extended until at least September 26th the temporary restraining issued over the Labor Day weekend. Marquez raised concern over whether the government had arranged for any of the children's parents or legal guardians in Guatemala to take custody of them. Laura Belous is an attorney for the Florence Immigration and Refugee Rights Project, which represents the children. Said in court that the miners had expressed no desire to be repatriated to their native countries of Guatemala and Honduras. Among concerns that they could face neglect, possible child trafficking, or hardships associated with individual medical conditions. A legal aid group filed a lawsuit in Arizona on behalf of 57 Guatemalan children and another 12 from Honduras between the ages of 3 and 17. Some of they came over alone. Could you imagine how bad things are to send your 3 year old just so that they are okay? The Trump administration is argued and it's acting in the best interest of the children by trying to reunite them with their families at the behest of the Guatemalan government. After Guatemalan officials toured U.S. detention facilities, the government said it was very concerned and that it would take children who wanted to return voluntarily. Judge Marquez said she found it, quote, frightening that U.S. officials may not have coordinated with the children's parents. She also expressed concern that the government was denying the children access to review by an experienced immigration judge and noted that legal representative for the children were notified of preparations for child departures with little notice. Very late at night.
Yeah. So these judges are now learning the lessons of Judge Boasberg. Right. Who tried to turn the planes around for the 250 men sent to Seacoat Prison. You got to put your foot down. You got to demand the planes are returned around. You got to put it in your written orders. You gotta not take what the government says at face value. The presumption of regularity is gone. Judges used to be able to believe what the Department of Justice attorneys were telling them. And that reservoir of trust is empty now. So that is good news. Thank you for that. And I just want to let everybody know that our Good Trouble is going to be a Good Trouble update. And it's first up in the Good News. And we're going to get to that after John Fugelsang, which is right after this quick break. Stick around. We'll be right back after these messages. We'll be right back. Listen, I'm busy. As you know, in between work and everything else in my schedule, I don't have time to spend hours shopping for clothes, going to the mall, returning stuff. And that's why I turn to Daily Look. They've taken all the stress out of keeping my wardrobe stylish and fresh and ready for any occasion. And thanks to Daily look, the number one personal styling service for women. Thank them for sponsoring us. They're amazing. Make sure you use our promo code Daily Beans, so they know that we sent you. And just go to dailylook.com for 50% off your first order. Daily look is not your typical subscription box. You're paired with a real stylist who curates pieces around your shape, your style preferences and your lifestyle. Because it's the same stylist each time, they learn what works for you and which makes each box more on point than the last. And you can try up to 12 items at a time at home. It's stress free. And that means no mall parking, no fluorescent dressing rooms, no endless scrolling through online catalogs. It's fashion that comes right to your door. It's beautifully packaged. Everything that came in my first Daily look box fit me perfectly. It was awesome. I loved it. I was thrilled with it. I got this really beautiful, ah, black dress, mock turtleneck with little ruffles on the sleeves. It's like one of my favorite pieces now. And I. It's not something I would have normally picked out, so I really, really appreciate them doing this. And what makes Daily look stand out is the experience. It's fashion that feels curated, personal and totally hassle free with free shipping and returns, by the way. So it's an easy way to make style feel fun again. So it's time to get your own personal stylist with Daily Look. Head to DailyLook.com to take your style quiz and use code daily beans for 50% off your first order. Once again, that's DailyLook.com for 50% off. And make sure you use our promo code DailyBeans all one word so they know we sent you one last time. Dailylook.com, promo code dailybeans. You'll be glad you did. Hey, everybody. Welcome back. It is Friday on the Daily Beans, which means it's Fugal Sang Friday. As I've been waiting for this conversation, I'm joined by my friend who hosts Tell Me everything on Sirius XM, uh, um, progress channel 127. And that's weeknights at 9:00pm Eastern, 6:00pm Pacific. If you don't have Sirius, you can always catch the John Fugal San show podcast. If you don't have that, he's got a substack. And if you don't have that, his book is out. It's available now. It's called the Separation of Church and that's right.
That's right.
Might be a little prescient push that.
Yeah.
Given what we're going to talk about today. Please welcome my friend, John Fugalang. Hi, John.
Hi, Alison. Thank you so much for having me. Hello to your deeply attractive audience. Uh, yeah, it's great to be having a book launch Week for a book about how to take down Christian nationalism non violently. Wow, what a week.
Yeah, it has been a week. First of all, we had the horrific shooting of students at a high school in Colorado. And then we follow that up with what happened, uh, in Utah. And I wanna kind of walk everybody through the day. I was completely numb and nauseous for most of yesterday. And I wanna explain why because it really has nothing to do with who fired the gun and who the victim was.
Correct.
I was in the middle of a meeting and, uh, my phone started blowing up. And I tend to set that stuff aside until I'm done with my meetings. And when I finished and I picked up my phone, somebody had sent me the close up, uh, video that I think has now been removed from social media of Charlie Kirk getting shot in the neck. And the bullet went in and liters of blood started pouring out of the, of his neck because apparently a carotid or a jugular shot with a.30 06. It seemed to me like a single, like a single action, maybe bolt rifle, um, one shot. So this wasn't like a automatic weapon or a semiautomatic weapon.
We're not used to this in America anymore.
It was intended for one person. Right. And I was just immediately like, I just hate, I hate gun violence and blood. It makes me nauseous. And also, given what Charlie Kirk does for a living, which is kind of the equivalent of what you and I do for a living, but on the other side, maybe, maybe just, uh, he's not an elected official.
Right.
He's a pundit.
Right.
Okay. And of course I'm not as popular, uh, as he is with his audience as I am with mine.
You should hate more non white people. And that could happen, Alison, if you want to build up the audience.
But I was immediately terrified and overwhelmed with nausea. And uh, I had said, I retweeted, I think what Pritzker said. I retweeted what Gabby Gifford said. I said, this is horrific. And by saying that this is horrific, I was immediately swarmed by folks on social media accusing me of supporting fascism.
Same.
And ah, failing the John Brown test, for example.
Oh, oh, because that's the same. Yeah.
Or you know, being on the side of terrorism or something to that effect. Because what they assumed I meant by this is horrific is poor Charlie Kirk. I love everything he talks about because, you know, my long history of supporting right wing talking points.
It's almost like anonymous Internet people don't really get the facts before they hate. It's, it's so strange.
And so I kind of had to step away and just delete things and walk away from social media for a while and just, uh, get some sleep because I was in a fog for most of the rest of the day. And again, I try to explain the reasons why. Um, it was just an extremely horrific and disturbing video to watch. Yes, I am, uh, against gun violence and I always have been strongly against gun violence.
And you mean, you mean the left, right? The people who have been trying to make it harder for murders to happen.
Yeah.
Harder for deranged people to easily get their hands on products designed to kill humans. Yeah. Um, we've been trying to prevent yesterday's shooting for many, many years. And both shootings Yesterday was the 46th and 47th American school shootings of 2025. Uh, and the people that the president are trying to blame are the ones who've been trying to prevent these shootings, trying to prevent the next mass shooting. I, uh, will continue to try to prevent mass shootings. We're not offering thoughts and prayers, we're offering action and policy solutions. Because I don't want Charlie Kirk's kids to grow up in the world we're living in right now.
Right. And I woke up today a little more clear eyed and with a lot of anger. And most of my anger is at the, what I consider to be really obvious whitewashing of Charlie Kirk in the coverage of what happened. Because let's be honest, not everybody is as plugged into politics as we are. Not everybody. Most people don't know who Charlie Kirk is. And the first thing that they're learning about Charlie Kirk was that he was a, uh, young 31 year old father. He reached across the aisle to debate, have, uh, open debates with people. He was a, a right wing pundit. He's been assassinated. And, uh, looks like the New York.
Times is right here with me. Wow.
Yeah. New York Times is in the room with you right now. And nobody, except you know, maybe say if Matthew Dowd was talking about the violent rhetoric that leads to this kind of thing.
Yes.
And he was fired for it. Meanwhile, Jesse Waters is on Fox News calling for a civil war and to avenge the death.
But, but, but Matthew. Doubt. But, yeah, but Matthew Dowd works for a news organization. Jesse Waters works for an entertainment organization. That's the difference. Liberals will pay the content consequence if liberals said the sort of things like Paul Pelosi like, like all conservatives said when Paul Pelosi was violently attacked, where, if liberals had the disregard and silence when it was the Minnesota lawmakers who were murdered, uh, then it would be a, a different story. But again, there's a different set of rules for people and a different set of standards that people are held to. We know that. We've seen it with Donald Trump. I mean, if Nancy Pelosi had come out and spread a lie, like, no, he's not a pedophile. He was in secretly working as an agent for the FBI to take down a pedophile. Like if Nancy Pelosi had told the kind of lie that Mike Johnson told this week and then the media didn't say he lied. The media said he walked back his statements.
Mhm.
So that's, uh, no, he lied. He told a profoundly stupid lie to the world. The deeply Christian speaker of the House. A lie to protect child rape. But then he walked back his statements. So we know we're not playing on a level playing field. This is the corporate media. This is the landscape we're all born into. This is the status quo. You know, the thing is, people are going to learn about Charlie Kirk. And when these laudatory headlines fade, the man's real statements are still going to be there. And it's not like fewer people are going to know about the many, many things he said about black women, about black men, about Muslims, about women in general and their roles. His blasphemy about what the Bible actually says. Uh, this guy had a lot of things that he's never going to get a chance to grow past. Now Charlie Kirk is someone that I had some tussles with and, and, and he came after me a couple times and, and, and you know, everything they're saying about him is correct. All the hate that he spread and all the violence that he condoned and all the pleasure he took in the starvation of children in Gaza, and he still didn't deserve to go like that. This guy called for armed militias to stop the diminishing of white demographics in America. He laughed, he laughed at the murder attempt on Paul Pelosi and he famously said how the gun deaths are all worth it. And he deserves to be at home with his family right now. Charlie Kirk deserves to live for many years, to watch his kids grow up. He deserves to lose so many debates. He deserves to watch Trumpism completely collapse and fail. He deserves to have a chance to have a gay friend or to have a transgender friend or to meet a non white person. That changes his perspective. Charlie Kirk's never going to get to grow as a person. Look at Joe Walsh. I mean, look at, look, look, look at these guys at the Bulwark. Look at how many Republicans have shown they can grow personally. Look at how many of us have talked our parents and grandparents out of homophobia in the last 30 years. Charlie Kirk's never going to get to grow. He's never going to get to make amends for the hateful things he said. That's going to m. Go with him forever because of another hateful American coward with a gun. Another one. And if there was ever any way, I'm so sorry, ever, any way we can say to our right wing friends, now it's happened to someone you love, will you get on our side a little bit and try to prevent the next one? Now that it's one degree of empathy and it's not faceless kids and Uvalde anymore, it's someone you people love, will you want to try to make it harder to stop the next murder? And that's the only thing we should be talking about because we've been morally consistent the whole time.
Yeah, they, they won't, I have a feeling.
Oh, they won't, no. But again, we got to stay consistent.
Well, it's pretty easy to stay consistent when you're right, uh, ding, ding, and you have facts on your side. But the problem I see with you say that after all of these, uh, kind of whitewashing headlines are gone and people start to actually learn who Charlie Kirk is. There's a problem with that in that first impressions in our current media atmosphere are they stick. And that's important too, because the Wall Street Journal this morning on a thinly sourced single source of someone familiar with the investigation, the manhunt for this shooter said that they saw an internal law enforcement memo. And the Wall Street Journal didn't publish the memo. They didn't say what the memo said, but they characterized it as having said that they found magazines from the shooter that espoused transgender ideology and anti fascist sentiments. And I saw that story and I was about to share it and say, look at this thinly sourced bullshit. But I was like, sharing this. I'm going to wait. I'm going to wait to see what happens. And within an hour, I think maybe two tops, the Department of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, ATF again, walked back, you know, walked back the lie and said, that's not consistent, uh, with all of the reports that we have.
Right?
That is not.
But they had to get it out early in the morning for the bots to spread it for the propaganda to sit in for the whole day.
So for the first impression yeah.
So the people who want to do nothing to prevent gun massacres can credibly blame the third of the country that wants to prevent gun massacres. That's exactly what you're witnessing here, right? I mean, the left is fighting for gun safety laws. The left is on the side of trying to make it harder for lunatics to run around with guns and pop off at a political rally. And before Charlie Kirk's body is even cold, the right is demanding war on the left. No facts, no evidence, no suspect, no motive. Doesn't matter. They got their narrative ready to go. Because why grieve when you can exploit? Why mourn when you can weaponize? This is Benghazi. This is Benghazi. It's not grief, it's spin. They will milk this for vengeance. FUNDRAISING clicks Elon is already on Twitter, typing with his greasy fingers. The left is a party of murder, pretending they've got the moral high ground. Meanwhile, they're the movement that fetishizes guns, worships violence, and excuses political assassinations when it's their side pulling the trigger. I mean, like, again, this is happening because these people believe that personal liberties matter more than the lives of American children. Personal liberties matter more than American lives. That's what they're fighting for. They know how evil it is. So they've got to make us seem like it's our fault.
Right? And in the middle of it all, before they know anything about anything, the president goes on TV and says, this left wing, it's a radicalized, uh, Marxist woke. Whatever.
Yeah.
Sets the narrative. Which is, by the way, when people were like, why isn't Joe Biden talking about how he wants Trump arrested for the insurrection? It's because you don't go out and create a narrative with your bully pulpit to taint.
And by the way, the history books will show it. I mean, the history books will be astonished at how evil Trump's response was already. All you see is how Joe Biden's speech when Trump was shot at. Because, you know, he wasn't actually shot. He didn't actually take a bullet, Alison. Do you know that? Didn't actually take a bullet.
Yeah.
Um, and Barack Obama's speech on political violence contrasted with Trump trying to smear the one half of the country that he doesn't like.
Yeah, absolutely. And they got the word out, and then now here we are, and we've had an incident, a bomb threat at the DNC that, you know, the Capitol Police went, they swept. It was a hoax, right? Yeah. And then we get all, uh, These bomb threats at HBCUs. And we're seeing the point of Trump saying what he said before knowing who the shooter was. And the Wall Street Journal running with that story on a single source with Finley.
But again, it's non stop. Look at all the violence against Democratic, uh, or progressive electeds, I mean, or activists. I mean, they tried to burn down the governor of Pennsylvania's house, they tried to kidnap the governor of Michigan, they shot Gabby Giffords. They just went in and shot these poor folks all over, all over Minnesota. And we didn't hear our right wing friends at all talk about the political war on Democrats or how free speech is, you know, is absolute. We didn't hear anything from them. I mean, smarter people than me have voiced outrage at this hypocrisy. But, but we lose. I think we lose if we, if we go ahead and take delight in this. And, and that was my problem. I had a, I had a comment that I, when he first got shot, before he died, before I, I knew he had died, um, I was like, I was like seeing people celebrating it. I'm like, you idiots realize that shooting Charlie Kirk makes you a worse person than Charlie Kirk. I thought it was so innocent. But the amount of vitriol on the left, I got on Blue sky because they thought somehow I was saying Charlie Kirk was a good guy. And I'm like, no, terrible guy. But I'm against murder. I'm against murder. An unarmed guy. I'm against murder of an unarmed guy with corrosive racist ideology because his crimes are free speech. Is he corroding young people's minds? Yes. Is he bad for America? Yes. Do I have the right to say he deserves to have his entire life and future? Do I have the right to say his kid should be an orphan? No. I'm not that good. I don't have the right.
So you have the right to say it. You don't have the right.
I got the right to say it. You're right. Correct. But I mean, murder of bad people is still bad. And I'd like to think we can agree on this because there's a whole right wing out there that's trying to make us want to be as violent as them. Donald Trump wants people on the left to throw a rock at a National Guardsman. Donald Trump signed that bogus flag burning thing because he wants us to burn flags on camera so they can show it on oan. This is, we talked about it last week. This is all and or season two. And they want the rebels to let Them have a Gorman massacre. They want it. They. They're hoping. And we will now see what they do with this violence. How much of a Reichstag fire will this be? We're talking about this on the anniversary of 9 11, when a violent attack was used to justify violent attacks and an economic agenda. I mean, it's literally the anniversary of the greatest exploitation of violence for more violence in our lifetimes. And I just pray that some people on the right will say, you know what? Maybe m. Maybe it'd be good to make it harder to kill people in this country.
I think, though, we've learned that they. They won't, uh, let's just shame them.
Let's. Then let's keep saying it and shaming them for it.
They didn't condemn any of the other political violence that's gone on since 2016.
They made jokes about Paul, uh, Pelosi. They, I mean. I mean, Charlie Kirk made jokes about Paul Pelosi. Yeah, political violence was. It was fun for them. They thought it was hilarious. And now we see this. But I. I just. I just don't get into the chickens coming home to roost thing, okay? As awful as this guy was, they're all saying, well, wouldn't you kill Hitler? Well, no, if I could go back in time, I wouldn't kill Hitler. I'd go back and I'd buy all his paintings. I'd make him a really successful painter and say, stay out of politics, Adolf. And I'd give him a lot of weed, so he'd be unmotivated. I don't believe in killing people, even bad people. But Charlie Kirk's not Hitler. If Charlie Kirk was systemically killing 6 million Jews, then, yeah, you know what? I take the gun from you and do it myself. But he wasn't. He was a schmuck who just traded hate to make money. And the darkest thing about his racism wasn't that he was racist. It was that he was extremely well compensated for normalizing racism for so many young people in college and in their 20s. And so by murdering him, we've sank. Uh, whoever did it has sanctified that racism has sanctified his bigotry. He's going to be a marble statue now. They're going to put flags at half mast and as you said, try to deify him. This is why violence doesn't work. It blows up in your face, and it causes the opposite of what you want. The only things we can use against these people are facts. In my case, I use the Bible, and we have to use humor and ridicule. And we have to use overwhelming numbers on election day. They're terrified of the midterms. That's why they're doing all this stuff right now with the National Guard. They're gonna use this any way they can to say there's a national emergency and make it harder for people to vote. We gotta play this smart. Cuz they are looking for us to get sloppy.
They are. And flags at half mast. Which we didn't get for the assassinations of the Hortmans.
Oh, Jimmy Carter got it. Until Donald Trump wanted it to be his special day. He raised the flags for president.
Yeah.
And he lowered him for a racist.
Right, yeah. Um, and that again, uh, and again.
The racist didn't deserve it. The racist didn't deserve it.
I'm just sickened by the attention paid now versus what happened in Minnesota. That guy had 70 people on his list that he wanted to kill.
Yeah, but I mean, look how we forget that. Look how we forget the pipe bombers. Look how we forget the, you know, the January 6th. January 6th. Look how we forget the guy who killed Heather Heyer.
Remember the bomber, the bomb guy who sent bombs to CNN and MSNBC and Obama. And remember the guy who had the van down by the river near Obama's house with all that ammo and guns.
And I remember that we were the side that was fighting to make it harder for Salvador Ramos to get an AR15 in Uvalde. We were the side that was trying to make it harder for so many mentally ill people or right wing people or religious fundamentalist people to easily get their hands on products designed to kill lots of humans really fast.
Yeah. I think one, um, of the reactions to what happened yesterday that, uh, really hit me was Shannon Watts and she said the problem with allowing guns everywhere is that no one is safe anywhere.
Yeah, Yeah.
I, I don't think that they're going to meet us in the middle and, and try to work on this. We got to try.
You know, Alison, I know we're not, but how many, uh, here's one thing I'll leave you with. How many Republicans, like, were so committed to hating gay people until their kid comes out?
Oh, right, yeah.
Ah, you know what I'm saying? Or until their daughter has a baby with a black man. And then they learn to love. And maybe because this is one degree of empathy, liberals, you know, these insufferable woke liberals, they drive us nuts. They care about everyone they don't know. Well, now it's happened to someone. Republicans do Know, and maybe they'll hear us a little better when we say no. No, forget your propaganda. We're trying to prevent this. We don't think Charlie Kirk deserved this. And we want to make it harder to murder people in this country because that's how all of our capitalist allies do it. And murder is bad for business. If you can't think of the poor people, think of the poor money.
Yeah. 76% of Americans, uh, want universal background checks, for example.
90%. I mean, 90%. I mean, it's more. 90% want expanded background checks. And Obama couldn't even get an up or down vote more popular than Christmas. And that's why the Republican Party has to project they're going to blame this on transgender migrant Hunter Bidens before the week's over. Anything they can do to avoid accountability now?
Ah, oddly, the nra, Oddly, the NRA itself said we do not endorse your idea of banning guns for transgender people because I think they understand the slippery slope they're about to get on. If they do that, they also.
Yeah, well, they. It's all profit for them. The NRA will happily sell guns to people all day long because if they kill anyone, the NRA can sell more guns. The NRA needs massacres to profit. That's their whole racket, that.
Very true.
I get their mailings. I mean, every time to live now after the. In the wake of this, responsible Second Amendment fans will pay the prices. Joe Biden comes to take your guns or Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, they never did. But you know how they sell. It's all about money. And they're going to make money off Charlie Kirk. And the right wing is.
The first person to ever come to try to take anybody's guns is Donald Trump, so.
Exactly. He campaigned on it in 2015. That's what Stop and Frisk was.
Yeah, I know. We could talk for hours, my friend.
Yeah, yeah.
Um, thank you for, ah, coming on the show today and speaking to me about this, everybody. You want to check out John Fugal saying his show is called Tell Me everything. It's on SiriusXM progress channel 127. It's weeknights, 9pm Eastern, 6 Pacific. You can also check out the John Fuglesang show podcast and definitely get a copy of his book, the Separation of Church and Hate.
Thank you. Pretty weird. Pretty weird week for a book launch media tour, let me tell you. But I mean, it's still consistent nonviolence and humor and what's actually in the Bible are how you go after Christian nationalists. Not with a freaking gun. Stop playing it by their rules.
Well, definitely, um, please stay safe out there, my friend.
You too. And I can't wait to find out what the ideology really was of this killer. I'm really interested to find out what.
The truth is if the fucking Keystone Cops, FBI, handled by Kash Patel, can fucking get their shit together and find this person. I mean, he fired the woman in charge of the Salt Lake City, uh, FBI field office, but probably for DEI reasons, right?
Those were, those were necessary budget cuts. But it did fund a bitch and weekend in Vegas.
So they dismantled the Joint Terrorism Task Force that doesn't exist anymore.
Oh, yeah.
Like, got rid of half of the FBI agents and the ones that are left. A third of them, uh, are left because the other two thirds are out helping ice, uh, you know, kidnap and disappear.
Boy, it's good for the economy, people. I mean, I mean, the Fed came out last week and said that consumer spending has flatlined or dropped and across the boards and that prices have gone up due to tariffs in every single financial sector in the us so. And Epstein's not going away, so it's going to get crazier and crazier. The distractions are going to get more and more violent and furious, and it's not going to end well for them. I just don't want the nice people on the left to use your own humanity. Not to go all Bono on everybody, but let's not become monsters to stop a monster. And that's not saying this was a left wing person who did the killing. You know, I mean, that's the shocking thing. We're used to it being people who fight for change, not defenders of the status quo. It's always the liberals who get offed. I mean, I mean, Kennedy and RFK and MLK and Medgar Revers and Anwar Sadat was killed by conservative Muslims for making peace with Israel. Yitzhak Rabin was killed by conservative Israelis for trying to make peace with Palestine. John Lennon. Jesus. We could go on. How often do right wing people get attacked? George, uh, Wallace, and now this. It never happens because it's historically not how the left acts. Because violence as a solution is not a liberal value and never has been.
Yeah. Well, thank you, my friend.
Thank you.
And I will see you next week, um, here on the Daily Beans. And, uh, I, I again, I appreciate your time today.
I really am glad I got to talk to you. I needed it. Thank you.
You're welcome, everybody. Stick around. We'll be right back with the good news, everybody. Welcome back. It's time for the good news, everyone.
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I know that, Michelle.
We both get that. I've broken away from the MSM and I'm cutting back on social media for my own well being and started listening to people I trust via podcast, which you have recommended and obviously your podcast to keep update in the know. Thanks again.
Wow, that's incredible.
I don't understand how this is an iPad sketch. It's phenomenal.
This is really amazing art.
Yeah.
Well, I hope you get your mojo back, but I totally understand. It's not something you can just.
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Turn on and off. Yeah. Right. Look at that bicycle painting.
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Yep.
That last picture. My goodness.
Yeah.
With the white power symbol.
Yeah. And the gear with the clock and then the. Yeah. Very cool. Very powerful stuff. Thank you so much. I love that bicycle one. Makes me want to go back to France. I haven't been in 40 years. Uh, well, like 35 years. It's been a long time. Thank you for that. Next up, Lewis pronouns he and him. My good news is in two parts. First, a shout out to my amazing queer daughter who recently submitted her manuscript to Penguin. Woo hoo.
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That right there is a beautiful photo.
That's fucking badass right there. Something you might not know about me. I taught archery for several years and.
Did not know something you don't know about me. I was quite an archer.
Were you?
I was pretty good in my time. Hell yeah.
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We sure will.
Any final thoughts, my friend?
Not today.
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